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	<title>Comments on: Vodafone&#8217;s iPhone rate plans &#8211; Why???</title>
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		<title>By: Exigency In Specie / Rip-Off Britain? Not With The iPhone 3G</title>
		<link>http://mothership.co.nz/2008/07/iphone-rate-plans/#comment-463</link>
		<dc:creator>Exigency In Specie / Rip-Off Britain? Not With The iPhone 3G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] generous compared to the deals in in Canada where there is no competition at all in the market, and New Zealand where there are only two [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kerry</title>
		<link>http://mothership.co.nz/2008/07/iphone-rate-plans/#comment-462</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t justify an iPhone at those prices.  So they work better than anything else, but for that much they&#039;re nothing more than a toy for the rich.  Apple could sell 10 times as many if the price dropped by a few hundred here, Vodafone could have more people using the features and data (if they drop the way overprices charges on that too) and everyone would be happy.

I have lost all respect for Vodafone now.  They used to be a little bit special but that&#039;s well and truly gone out the window.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t justify an iPhone at those prices.  So they work better than anything else, but for that much they&#8217;re nothing more than a toy for the rich.  Apple could sell 10 times as many if the price dropped by a few hundred here, Vodafone could have more people using the features and data (if they drop the way overprices charges on that too) and everyone would be happy.</p>
<p>I have lost all respect for Vodafone now.  They used to be a little bit special but that&#8217;s well and truly gone out the window.</p>
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		<title>By: karl</title>
		<link>http://mothership.co.nz/2008/07/iphone-rate-plans/#comment-461</link>
		<dc:creator>karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex:

It appears Vodafone are standing firm for the time being.  They appear to feel justified in what they want to charge to iPhone customers.  Early adopters are being hit hard.

Dave:

I&#039;m with Natalie on this.  The free market allows Vodafone to price as they see fit, and the same free market allows consumers the choice as to whether to purchase or not.  Of course, once another provider starts selling these in New Zealand, the gloves are off.

Justin:

They could quite well be mad.  Greed can do that.  Vodafone complain that not enough people use mobile data for economies of scale to set in, yet until they drop the price to a reasonable amount, it&#039;s going to stay that way.  If they expect consumers to sign up en masse and hope that in good time Vodafone reciprocate and drop prices, then they are not in touch with how things work in the real world.

Luke B:

Agreed.  I have had hundreds of emails, texts, etc from a lot of angry people, including quite a number who are cancelling their Vodafone contracts out of principle.  Number portability is a wonderful thing...

Marco:

That&#039;s more like it.  Given the competition in the UK though, we&#039;re not likely to see a similar scenario here.

Aaron:

Sometimes it&#039;s best to say nothing at all.  Apple are masters at this, and I think Vodafone can take a lesson from Apple on this front.  From the interview on Campbell, to the media and press statements so far, Vodafone come out looking worse and worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex:</p>
<p>It appears Vodafone are standing firm for the time being.  They appear to feel justified in what they want to charge to iPhone customers.  Early adopters are being hit hard.</p>
<p>Dave:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with Natalie on this.  The free market allows Vodafone to price as they see fit, and the same free market allows consumers the choice as to whether to purchase or not.  Of course, once another provider starts selling these in New Zealand, the gloves are off.</p>
<p>Justin:</p>
<p>They could quite well be mad.  Greed can do that.  Vodafone complain that not enough people use mobile data for economies of scale to set in, yet until they drop the price to a reasonable amount, it&#8217;s going to stay that way.  If they expect consumers to sign up en masse and hope that in good time Vodafone reciprocate and drop prices, then they are not in touch with how things work in the real world.</p>
<p>Luke B:</p>
<p>Agreed.  I have had hundreds of emails, texts, etc from a lot of angry people, including quite a number who are cancelling their Vodafone contracts out of principle.  Number portability is a wonderful thing&#8230;</p>
<p>Marco:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s more like it.  Given the competition in the UK though, we&#8217;re not likely to see a similar scenario here.</p>
<p>Aaron:</p>
<p>Sometimes it&#8217;s best to say nothing at all.  Apple are masters at this, and I think Vodafone can take a lesson from Apple on this front.  From the interview on Campbell, to the media and press statements so far, Vodafone come out looking worse and worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://mothership.co.nz/2008/07/iphone-rate-plans/#comment-460</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;&quot;]My brother is getting one in the UK.

Cost is about NZ$120/month but he gets 1200 minutes of calls and UNLIMITED data! And the iPhone is FREE!

This kind of device is only elevated from being a paperweight by the data capability, so VF have totally ruined it for everyone. If data can be unlimited elsewhere, why not in NZ?[/quote]


Haha, remember, because its too expensive says the guy from voda. I took so little interest in what he said, i even forgot his name. All that came out of his mouth was bullshit.

I think hes gonna&#039; need excess toilet paper.. Maybe they should charge him a monthly rate for extra rolls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=""]My brother is getting one in the UK.</p>
<p>Cost is about NZ$120/month but he gets 1200 minutes of calls and UNLIMITED data! And the iPhone is FREE!</p>
<p>This kind of device is only elevated from being a paperweight by the data capability, so VF have totally ruined it for everyone. If data can be unlimited elsewhere, why not in NZ?[/quote]</p>
<p>Haha, remember, because its too expensive says the guy from voda. I took so little interest in what he said, i even forgot his name. All that came out of his mouth was bullshit.</p>
<p>I think hes gonna&#8217; need excess toilet paper.. Maybe they should charge him a monthly rate for extra rolls.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://mothership.co.nz/2008/07/iphone-rate-plans/#comment-459</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My brother is getting one in the UK.

Cost is about NZ$120/month but he gets 1200 minutes of calls and UNLIMITED data! And the iPhone is FREE!

This kind of device is only elevated from being a paperweight by the data capability, so VF have totally ruined it for everyone. If data can be unlimited elsewhere, why not in NZ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My brother is getting one in the UK.</p>
<p>Cost is about NZ$120/month but he gets 1200 minutes of calls and UNLIMITED data! And the iPhone is FREE!</p>
<p>This kind of device is only elevated from being a paperweight by the data capability, so VF have totally ruined it for everyone. If data can be unlimited elsewhere, why not in NZ?</p>
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		<title>By: luke b</title>
		<link>http://mothership.co.nz/2008/07/iphone-rate-plans/#comment-458</link>
		<dc:creator>luke b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had all my money ready to buy one of these ditch my current phone and plan which are still very good and queue up at freezing midnight but no. not now,not even if i could afford it after petrol food and Uncle Helens taxes  would i go and support the monopoly of vodafone. whos running this telco? labour? this is sad and makes me very angry. Screw you vodafone im ashamed to still be on your network.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had all my money ready to buy one of these ditch my current phone and plan which are still very good and queue up at freezing midnight but no. not now,not even if i could afford it after petrol food and Uncle Helens taxes  would i go and support the monopoly of vodafone. whos running this telco? labour? this is sad and makes me very angry. Screw you vodafone im ashamed to still be on your network.</p>
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		<title>By: chelle</title>
		<link>http://mothership.co.nz/2008/07/iphone-rate-plans/#comment-457</link>
		<dc:creator>chelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far this has been all about individual plans, but what about users on corporate account plans?
What would an iPhone cost me in this instance? And would I be able to use it on my existing plan with no change in rates?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far this has been all about individual plans, but what about users on corporate account plans?<br />
What would an iPhone cost me in this instance? And would I be able to use it on my existing plan with no change in rates?</p>
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		<title>By: karl</title>
		<link>http://mothership.co.nz/2008/07/iphone-rate-plans/#comment-456</link>
		<dc:creator>karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 07:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a link to the John Campbell TV3 interview with Vodafone&#039;s Head of Marketing - Mark Rushworth.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://mothership.co.nz/files/forumfodder/tv3campbellinterview.wmv&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Interview&lt;/a&gt;  Windows Media

&lt;a href=&quot;http://mothership.co.nz/files/forumfodder/tv3campbellinterview.mov&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Interview&lt;/a&gt;  Quicktime</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a link to the John Campbell TV3 interview with Vodafone&#8217;s Head of Marketing &#8211; Mark Rushworth.</p>
<p><a href="http://mothership.co.nz/files/forumfodder/tv3campbellinterview.wmv" rel="nofollow">Interview</a>  Windows Media</p>
<p><a href="http://mothership.co.nz/files/forumfodder/tv3campbellinterview.mov" rel="nofollow">Interview</a>  Quicktime</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie</title>
		<link>http://mothership.co.nz/2008/07/iphone-rate-plans/#comment-455</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 06:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not civil disobedience - that&#039;s voting with your feet.

It&#039;s capitalism and if Vodafone want to practice it by pricing the iPhone as they have then we have the right to practice by not purchasing iPhones.

Seems pretty simple to me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not civil disobedience &#8211; that&#8217;s voting with your feet.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s capitalism and if Vodafone want to practice it by pricing the iPhone as they have then we have the right to practice by not purchasing iPhones.</p>
<p>Seems pretty simple to me!</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Bell</title>
		<link>http://mothership.co.nz/2008/07/iphone-rate-plans/#comment-454</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 06:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you buy the iPhone by itself, you might be able to get the plan down to ~$50 a month using their You Choose Base 20 and the 200MB per month broadband. That is still too much for me. I have a Treo 600 on pre-paid, and put about $20 on every few months.

I think Vodafone are shooting themselves in the foot. I&#039;d gladly pay $30 a month for broadband and do the rest on pre-paid, but they don&#039;t do that. $50 per month is too much, let alone $80, or $250 (are they fucking insane?)

I hope they get dismal sales and realise that the should treat the iPhone just like any other phone, and get real when it comes to their monthly plans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you buy the iPhone by itself, you might be able to get the plan down to ~$50 a month using their You Choose Base 20 and the 200MB per month broadband. That is still too much for me. I have a Treo 600 on pre-paid, and put about $20 on every few months.</p>
<p>I think Vodafone are shooting themselves in the foot. I&#8217;d gladly pay $30 a month for broadband and do the rest on pre-paid, but they don&#8217;t do that. $50 per month is too much, let alone $80, or $250 (are they fucking insane?)</p>
<p>I hope they get dismal sales and realise that the should treat the iPhone just like any other phone, and get real when it comes to their monthly plans.</p>
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